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Intrigue

The Immortals - Ep 9. Nerd Rapture

Intrigue

BBC

True Crime, Society & Culture, Personal Journals

4.64.6K Ratings

🗓️ 2 October 2023

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

The immortalist movement in Silicon Valley shares a lot with evangelical religions, says Dr Emile P Torres, a philosopher and former Nick Bostrom acolyte. In both, he explains, there’s a heaven in which the faithful will experience unsurpassed bliss and delight, and an apocalypse, which will separate out the people who can go there.

After a decade at the epicentre of the transhumanist research community, Emile became concerned with the number of apocalyptic stories of techno-utopia that were being shared online. Was this philosophical movement becoming radicalised? When Emile raises the question, the consequences are swift and severe. Excommunicated, harassed and threatened.

With influential and powerful technology billionaires as some of its faithful, is Emile right? Is this movement really one of the most dangerous secular ideologies?

In this series, technology reporter and psychologist Aleks Krotoski explores the frontiers of the extreme longevity pioneers. They've made their money in Silicon Valley. And with their technology solutions - PayPal, Facebook, cryptocurrencies - they've ushered in the world that we live in today, with all its unintended consequences. Some of them now want to solve the "problem" of aging, or even death, and they are making bigger strides than we may think.

Can they? Should they?

A Pillowfort production for BBC Radio 4

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Choosing what to watch night after night the flicking through the endless

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searching is a nightmare we want to help you on our brand new podcast off the

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telly we share what we've been watching

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Fladiated.

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Load to games, loads of fun, loads of screaming.

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Lovely. Off the telly with me Joanna Paige.

0:21.0

And me, Natalie Cassidy, so your evenings can be a little less

0:25.0

searching and a lot more auction listen on BBC Sounds, music, radio podcasts.

0:35.8

In this series, we have revealed the Latter-day Prophet who has inspired a modern movement

0:41.2

for immortality in Silicon Valley. A philosopher named a In order to live forever, we have to merge with technology.

0:54.8

Become, as he describes it, post-human.

0:59.8

And this is not just for our benefit right now, but for the future of humanity to save ourselves

1:07.4

and the generations that follow us.

1:10.6

The post-human moment heralds a new dawn, a time when artificial intelligence will either lead us to

1:18.0

utopia and we will become immortal or it will completely annihilate us.

1:25.0

This is the moment when the entire future of humanity is decided.

1:30.0

Dr. Emil P. Torres is a prominent technology philosopher. Emile uses they-them

1:35.2

pronouns and they also were once an evangelical Christian. I grew up in a very

1:41.1

religious community. In particular there was a very religious community.

1:42.6

In particular, there was a very strong focus

1:45.4

on the future of us as individuals

1:49.1

and the future of the Cosmos as a whole.

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