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San Francisco's Mission District has always been the center of unconventional thinking.

It's a place where tradition and innovation cross-pollinate in its takerias and hipster

dive bars, its churches and its dog parks.

And it is here where Selene Halewa is thinking differently about how long we can live.

She's 28 and stylish.

She's always thought different as they say in Silicon Valley.

She's one of those people who could break them old and become a millionaire.

I switched and took my scholarship with me, although I never would have gone this scholarship

for neuroscience. She's telling me a story about getting around the system, even as a student.

Actually, apparently you're not allowed to do that anymore.

So, sorry, guys, that hack no longer exists.

This is a far cry from the FDA warning five years ago about unscrupulous actors who were

touting potentially harmful treatments, which we heard about in the last episode.

And although all that hype around young blood and the unfounded claims of rejuvenation

might have been a blow to the reputation of longevity research,

it didn't derail work elsewhere on other mechanisms of aging.

Selene takes a sip of her oat cappuccino and pushes her heavy-rimmed black specks back up her nose.

Did you always hack the system?

I think I did. Yeah, I think in retrospect, they always kind of just figured out the Selene way

and do things. I mean, I think if you're doing it for the greater good, it's acceptable.

It is this sort of attitude that Silicon Valley entrepreneurs have used to disrupt systems and

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