The Immortals - Ep 5. The Trial

Intrigue

BBC

True Crime, Society & Culture, Personal Journals

4.6 • 4.6K Ratings

🗓️ 18 September 2023

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

Loyal for Dogs is one of the companies in the longevity industry doing serious science. They are well-founded, have a killer team, and a very clear mission: to be the first to get a drug that treats ageing - not just the diseases of ageing, but ageing itself - to pass the rigorous Food and Drug Administration approval process.

Their CEO, Celine Halioua, is a maverick founder whose life has been guided by her ability to work systems. So, to meet her mission, she’s got a hack that will get her new ageing drug into trials. That will be a first for the longevity community, and the foundation stone for the next phase of our search for eternal life.

In this series, technology reporter and psychologist Aleks Krotoski explores the frontiers of the extreme longevity pioneers. They've made their money in Silicon Valley. And with their technology solutions - PayPal, Facebook, cryptocurrencies - they've ushered in the world that we live in today, with all its unintended consequences. Some of them now want to solve the "problem" of aging, or even death, and they are making bigger strides than we may think.

Can they? Should they?

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0:04.6	My name's Linda Davies and I Commission Podcasts for BBC Sounds.
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0:20.4	makes podcasts about all kinds of things like pop stars,
0:24.6	poltergeist, cricket, and conspiracy theories and that's just a few examples.
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0:41.0	San Francisco's Mission District has podcasts.
0:43.0	San Francisco's mission district has always been the center of unconventional thinking.
0:48.0	It's a place where tradition and innovation cross-pollinate in its takgareas and hipster dive bars, its churches and its dog parks.
0:59.0	And it is here where Saline Hollywood is thinking differently about how long we can live.
1:06.8	She's 28 and stylish. She's always thought different as they say in Silicon Valley.
1:12.1	She's one of those people who could break the
1:13.7	mold and become a millionaire.
1:15.7	I switched and took my scholarship with me, although I never would have gone to a scholarship for
1:19.6	neuroscience. She's telling me a story about getting around the system, even as a student.
1:23.9	Actually, I apparently are not allowed to do that anymore.
1:27.0	So sorry, guys, that hack, no longer exists.
1:33.0	This is a far cry from the FDA warning five years ago
1:36.7	about unscrupulous actors who were touting
1:39.6	potentially harmful treatments, which we heard about in the last episode.
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