And welcome back to the Bill Bennett show, thoughtful conversation about the news of the day.

And we address the existential threats to America.

We're doing that today, aren't we, flawed?

Yes, we definitely are. And by the the way we're talking about a big one the number one issue among most Americans that's correct so joining us today

Mark McCurorian he's the executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies.

He's really the godfather of immigration information.

He knows everything there is to know.

He'll give us an update on the border crisis.

Well, I'll tell you just one thing before talking to Mark.

Extraordinary, I think, this fine on Trump, 350 million, no 450 million, and growing daily.

No harm done demonstrated, no victims unprecedented penalty and very unclear

whether he can get ahead of it at all I mean I just I'm flabbergasted are you oh absolutely and I mean for no other reason then the fact that it's obvious that this among many other attacks on former President Trump is all political I mean it's because of who he is

it's because they don't like him it's because they decided that at whatever

cost they're going to take him down it doesn't matter whether it's putting

them in jail whether it's stripping him of all of his money and assets they don't like them and he's got

several different angles of attack. A lot of different people and departments coming after him and this is what it looks like.

It's a shame. It's really unbelievable. I mean that's a ton of money, a ton of money.

And I, you know, I've been looking this thing straight on upside down sideways and he's got to end up paying something and something very substantial seems to me.

Yeah, and recently what I've been seeing on some of the more liberal outlets is now that actually

trying to poke fun of them or embarrass them like, well, he doesn't even have the money

to pay this.

He doesn't have enough money and all the kind of stuff and and that's

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