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Sounds True.com. You're listening to Insights at the Edge. Today my guests are Peter Bauman and Michael Taft.

Peter began his career as a member of the internationally acclaimed 1970s band Tangerine Dream

and later founded the private music record label and has assembled a top-notch

interdisciplinary think tank, the San Francisco-based

Balmin Foundation, to explore what it means to be fully human.

Michael Taft is a serious student of evolution and the capacities of the human brain,

a professional researcher and writer for more than two decades, Michael is fascinated

by what neuroscience, biology, psychology, archaeology, and technology can tell us about the human condition.

With Natural Enlightenment Press, which is distributed by Sounds True,

Peter and Michael have co-written the book Ego, The Fall of the Twin Towers and the Rise of

an Enlightenment Humanity. In this pioneering book, Peter and Michael explore the positive

evolutionary potential of this particular time in human history.

In this episode of Insights at the Edge, Peter, Michael, and I spoke about the conceptual revolution that took place 50,000 years ago and the

conscious or Enlightenment revolution that could be happening right now. We also talked about new research that points to the

emotions as mostly physical not mental phenomenon and the ego as a concept and a function versus being a solid entity and how

that changes the way we live and relate to others. Here's my conversation with Peter Bauman and Michael Taft.

To begin with Peter, I want to talk about the big picture of the book Ego, the big view that you're communicating here in this book.

And as I was reading the book, for me where it began is that through your study, research, inquiry,

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