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Welcome to the Double X Gap Fest for Thursday, July 11th, the I'm a Creep I'm Sorry, edition.

I'm Hannah Rosen, a host of NPR's Invisibilia.

And in the New York studios, we have June Thomas, a managing producer of Slate Podcasts. Hi, June. Hey, Hannah. And Noreen Malone of New York Magazine. Hi, Noreen. Hi, Hannah. So how are your summers going? Are you guys in summer doldrums like I'm hot every single day and I don't feel like working? Or I'm not in that mode, surprisingly. But I'm just wondering how you guys are doing.

Oh, I'm in a great summer mood.

I've been to the beach a few times, not wearing pants anymore, exclusively dresses.

I'm loving it.

What's your New York beach, just curiosity?

Like, what's your New York beach?

Well, normally I go to Fort Tilden or the Rockaways, but over the 4th of July weekend, I went to Long Beach in Long Island, which I'd never been to before. I'm not sure why people don't go to it. It's a very suburban-feeling beach, but you can get there in an hour on the train, and the waves are super nice. Yeah, I only go to Long Beach. Like, I grew up in Long Beach. Oh, because you grew up in Queens. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. So my brother has his like, you know, particular corner and particular parking lot. And that's where we go. Yeah, I'll tell you later. I've never been to a beach. And even when I go like to Provincetown, I don't go to any of the beach. I just stay in time. why does that not surprise me? I mean, I never thought about it.

Like, I'm just had to I don't go anywhere near the beach. I just stain time.

Why does that not surprise me?

I mean, I never thought about it.

Like, I'm just had to visualize you like just in a bathing suit with the sand all over your body.

Yeah, believe me, that doesn't happen.

When I go to Primisstein, I usually spend most of my time in the library, which is a lovely library. But, why? Because it's really nice.

What else am I going to do in the daytime? Go to the beach? Yeah, exactly. Oh, man. And, but I've been

really enjoying the TV and spending time with my cat. And, uh, yeah. So summer's like winter, really. No, really no it's uh because you have the AC on so

you know you have to turn the TV up a bit louder but that's about the only difference really

how's your summer going that is really funny well I did use sweetest soap I I will sell you June

this morning I found I was shopping this weekend was my mom was here and we were going to various places and I saw the Swedish soap. I was like, oh my God, that's June soap. So I'm cleaner than I was before and I smell really good today.

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