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Today in Focus

The hunt for the next Dalai Lama

Today in Focus

The Guardian

Daily News, News

4.65.7K Ratings

🗓️ 28 July 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

The Guardian’s south Asia correspondent, Hannah Ellis-Petersen, and the Tibet activist Lhadon Tethong discuss the battle between Buddhist monks and the Chinese state over the successor to the Dalai Lama. Help support our independent journalism at theguardian.com/infocus

Transcript

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0:00.0

This is The Guardian.

0:09.3

Today, the battle to choose the Dalai Lama's successor.

0:28.3

20 years ago on July 7th, 2005, the 7-7 bombings rocked London.

0:31.1

It changed the way Londoners looked at their city. I actually encountered three of the perpetrators of 7-7 in late 2002.

0:37.0

I'm Thomas Small, the co-host of Conflicted.

0:39.8

In this special documentary series,

0:41.8

we'll tell you the story of 7-7 as you've never heard it before from the inside.

0:47.4

Search 7-7, The Inside Story, wherever you get your podcasts.

0:58.5

Music wherever you get your podcasts. Every year, the Dalai Lama's birthday draws thousands to Daramshala,

1:03.7

the mountain town in northern India that's become the center of Tibetan life in exile.

1:09.7

This year, as ever, the streets were packed with Buddhist followers and monks in orange

1:14.0

robes, there to mark the 90th birthday of the spiritual leader.

1:24.1

But this year, there was a palpable sense of anticipation.

1:30.4

As the Dalai Lama gets older, the battle to choose his successor is underway, and it's no longer just a spiritual matter for one religion

1:36.3

in one part of the world. It's a geopolitical standoff. The Dalai Lama says only his trusted Tibetan inner circle can decide who comes next.

1:49.5

But China says it's their decision, meaning the outcome could reignite a decades-long conflict over Tibet, borders, and the future of Buddhism itself.

2:00.1

From The Guardian, I'm Lucy Hoth, today in focus,

2:04.0

why there could soon be two Dalai Llamas and what that means for the world.

2:13.9

Hannah Ellis Peterson, you're the Guardian South Asia correspondent. First of all, can we take stock of

2:20.0

this colossal figure of the Dalai Lama as he marks his 90th birthday? So yeah, so the Dalai Lama

2:26.6

occupies a kind of very unique position as this globally recognized, both cultural and religious

2:31.9

icon, I think we can say. You know, he is head of the Tibetan Buddhists,

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