Before we get going, here's the bit where I remind you that nothing we discussed should be considered as investment advice.

This conversation is for informational and hopefully entertainment purposes only.

So, while we hope you find it both informative and entertaining, please do your own research

or speak to a financial advisor before putting a dime of your money into these crazy markets.

And now, on with the show. Welcome everybody to another edition of the 100 Year Pevert,

joining me my co-host on this little journey,

the wonderful Dmitri Kofinas.

Hello, Dimitri, how are you, my friend?

I'm great. How are you, Grant?

I am wonderful. I'm really looking forward to this conversation we got coming up. I heard a guest on your podcast first, and I found him compelling and captivating an equal measure, so I'm thrilled to get the chance to talk to him on this podcast with you today. Me too, man. I'm a huge fan of Jonathan's work. I don't remember how I discovered his book.

I think it was called an unwritten future.

But he's a classical realist, as I think you mentioned.

And, you know, people, a lot of people became familiar with the realist school after the

Russian invasion of Ukraine because John Meersheimer went like super viral with like a speech he gave

that he delivered to, I think it was Chicago University where he teaches. And John's been on the podcast

before, as has Stephen Walt, another prominent realist. But it was so interesting to me about

Jonathan's perspective on realism and he calls himself a classical realist is that it resembles

much more the sort of early thinking

of the early political economists and philosophers.

And specifically, it gives an enormous amount of latitude to uncertainty.

And to those, who's the British statesman that said,

they asked them what happened?

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