The Humble Microbe Could Help Us Understand Life Itself
Science Friday
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🗓️ 23 September 2025
⏱️ 13 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, I'm Flora Lickman, and you're listening to Science Friday. |
| 0:07.0 | On the podcast today, a conversation from our live show in Redwood City, California, |
| 0:12.5 | we're talking about one of the most profound questions in science. |
| 0:17.7 | How did life begin? |
| 0:23.6 | I want you to sift through your memories and excavate an image of a fossil. Maybe you're |
| 0:32.0 | picturing dinosaur bones or an imprint of an ammonite or the fronds of a fern etched into stone. |
| 0:40.3 | But there's a whole other category of fossilized remains that can tell us about life way before |
| 0:47.3 | T-Rexes or even twigs existed on this planet. |
| 0:52.3 | I present to you fossil microbes. Well, technically, the fossilized evidence of them. |
| 0:59.4 | My next guest uses these ancient remains to understand how life began on Earth, which may also help us |
| 1:06.2 | find life elsewhere in the universe. Joining me now is Dr. Paula Wheelander, professor of Earth System Science at |
| 1:13.0 | Stanford University. Paula, welcome to Science Friday. Thank you. How do microbes show up in the |
| 1:22.7 | fossil record? Like what are you looking for? Like you said in your introduction, when we think |
| 1:26.9 | about a fossil, we think about, like, Jurassic Park, right? |
| 1:29.5 | The dentures. |
| 1:30.2 | Those are morphological fossils, and those are usually hard structures. |
| 1:34.0 | But microbes are soft, right? |
| 1:35.4 | They're single-celled. |
| 1:36.4 | And so a lot of their tissue is what we would consider tissue gets dissolved in that process of a rock forming and fossilizing. |
| 1:45.0 | And so geochemist had this idea to extract organic molecules from these fossilized rocks. |
| 1:52.0 | And a whole slew of chemicals came out and turned out to be molecules that microbes make. |
| 1:58.0 | We also make them, but that can be preserved in the rock. |
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