It's the Brian Larry Show on WNYC. Good morning again, everyone. We're going to talk about Sudan now, where if you've not been following the story, that country has been experiencing a civil

war since April 2023 due to a power struggle between its army and a powerful paramilitary group

called the RSF Rapid Support Forces. And here's how bad this is. The reporting, according to the BBC, is that over

150,000 people have died in the two plus years since the beginning of this conflict, and about 12 million

have fled their homes in what the United Nations has called the world's largest humanitarian crisis.

And yet, compared to Gaza and lots of other things, it just doesn't get much publicity in this country.

On October 26th, the paramilitary group seized the city of Elfashir in Sudan's Darfur region

from Sudan's military. News outlets report the group,

quote, went on a rampage of mass killings. An estimated 200,000 residents of that city are

unaccounted for. The aid group, the International Rescue Committee, calls Sudan the face of the

New World Disorder, saying it's a

conflict sponsored by a growing cast of regional and global rivals, driven by transactional

diplomacy and economic greed and sustained by impunity from the IRC. We're going to talk to one

of their leaders here in a second. Earlier this month, the paramilitary group,

RSF, said it agreed to a humanitarian truce proposed by the United States, the United Arab Emirates,

and Egypt. Sudan's army, however, is wary of a truce, saying the paramilitary group doesn't respect

ceasefires. Joining us now on both the spiraling

humanitarian crisis in Sudan and how global powers are attempting to shape it is Kieran Donnelly,

senior vice president for international programs at the International Rescue Committee.

Kieran, welcome to WNYC. Thank you for joining us. Thanks for having me on,

Brian. The city of El Fasher, as I mentioned in the intro, has been besieged for 500 days with

very limited information getting out. News organizations have been tracking events via satellite images

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