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The Human Cost of Welfare Reform w/ John Pring (11/21/24)

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4.8588 Ratings

🗓️ 21 November 2024

⏱️ 93 minutes

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Summary

Beatrice speaks with John Pring about how welfare privatization and calls to cut benefits in the name of reducing waste, fraud and abuse hollowed out the welfare state in the UK and directly led to the deaths of welfare recipients, and about his new book The Department: How a Violent Government Bureaucracy Killed Hundreds and Hid the Evidence. Find our other recent episode with John and China Mills (discussed in this episode) here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/115294795 Find John’s book here: https://www.plutobooks.com/9780745349893/the-department/ Transcript forthcoming. Find our book Health Communism here: www.versobooks.com/books/4081-health-communism Find Jules' new book, A Short History of Trans Misogyny, here: https://www.versobooks.com/products/3054-a-short-history-of-trans-misogyny Death Panel merch here (patrons get a discount code): www.deathpanel.net/merch As always, support Death Panel at www.patreon.com/deathpanelpod

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And it just clicked.

0:03.4

It suddenly made this whole story make sense.

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When you overlay this idea of slow bureaucratic violence over the DWP scandal, over

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this 30 years, suddenly everything makes sense.

0:15.2

This slow, kind of gradual, brief of harm that you just don't notice. Thanks. Welcome to the Deaf Panel.

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us at Death Panel underscore. I'm Beatrice Soutler Bolton and today I'm joined by returning guest

1:26.7

John Pring.

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John is founder and editor of the News Agency Disability News Service based in the UK.

1:33.7

He is co-creator of the Deaths by Welfare Project and co-editor and specialist advisor on the

1:39.3

Museum of Austerity Project.

1:41.4

And I've asked John back on the show today to discuss his latest book, just published by Pluto

1:45.9

Press, called The Department, How a Violent Government bureaucracy, killed hundreds and hid the

1:51.6

evidence. John, welcome back to the death panel. So nice to have you on the show again.

1:56.4

Thanks, Patras. Happy to be yet. Well, thank you so much for sitting down with me today to discuss your book, John.

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It's, it is an intense but incredibly important and intensively researched book that

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