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Rational Security

The "How Many Cs in Accountability” Edition

Rational Security

The Lawfare Institute

Foreignpolicy, Nationalsecurity, News, Government, Politics, Middleeast

4.82K Ratings

🗓️ 6 April 2022

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

This week, Alan, Quinta and Scott were joined by their fellow Lawfare senior editor and Brookings Institution senior fellow Molly Reynolds to hash through some of the week's big national security news, including:

  • “The Butchers of Bucha.” Russian troops who recently retreated from the Kyiv suburb of Bucha appear to have engaged in a weeks-long campaign of violence against the Ukrainian civilians living there, leading some—including President Biden—to call for a war crimes trial. Why would Russia do this? And how should the United States and the world respond? 
  • “To Refer, or Not to Refer, That is the Question.” Even as they rush to get ready for public hearings, Jan. 6 committee members have begun to cast shade on the idea that they will produce a criminal referral of President Trump or anyone else for matters other than contempt of Congress for refusing to comply with its subpoenas. Is this the right move on the committee’s part? 
  • “When Texas Messes with You.” The Supreme Court recently heard oral argument in Torres v. Texas Department of Public Safety, the first case to seriously test the limits of congressional war powers in several decades. What should we expect from this case? And what will it tell us about how our new Supreme Court views war powers and national security?

For object lessons, Alan brought our attention to the possibility that one can be buried not just in a cemetery but in a living forest. Quinta endorsed a New Yorker article by Rachel Aviv on how an Ivy League university turned on a promising young student with a difficult past. Scott recommended the show "Single Drunk Female," a darkly funny exploration of alcoholism and its aftermath that is set in a menagerie of Massachusetts accents. And Molly noted that the U.S. Census Bureau had recently posted a very searchable version of the 1950 census records, which included an interesting observation on her own grandfather. 

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0:00.8

So Molly, I'm sorry that I feel like I bullied you onto the pod today.

0:04.8

I would call it, you've fallen told me onto the onto the pod. I would not, I would not say I

0:10.4

felt bullied, but lesson should be that if you suggest in one of our meetings, someone should

0:18.2

save it for the pod. Scott will just decide that you're going to save it for the pod.

0:23.9

I consider that all the consent I need for my coast to invite somebody on the podcast.

0:28.8

We're always happy to have you Molly. We only invite Alan to those Monday meetings to bully

0:34.0

people. That's what he's here for. He's our muscle, you see. Yeah, every senior editor plays an

0:39.2

important role. You know, Molly brings congressional expertise, Quinta brings that political

0:43.5

theory, journalistic flair. I'm the mean one. We all have a hard to play. You're the mean girl,

0:48.5

exactly. You must have the nicest thing you've said about me in a long time, Scott. Thank you.

0:53.0

There you go. Of course, of course, anytime. It is not Wednesday, so we are not obligated to be

0:58.3

wearing pink for Alan. And in fact, listeners, none of us are wearing pinks. I will need that

1:03.2

happen to be clear. It will. I will have.

1:12.3

Hello, everyone. Welcome to rational security 2.0, aka Dorken Mindy. Na-nu-na-nu. Na-nu-na-nu to my

1:20.8

co-host, Alan Rosenstein. Glad to have you here this week. I'm glad to be here, though. I have

1:26.1

no idea what that was reference to. Well, we'll get to the second. Na-nu-na-nu to you. My other

1:31.1

co-host, Quinta Jurassic, how are you? I also have no idea what that is reference to. Well, let's see if

1:36.6

our secret fourth, not so secret. Our fourth co-host this week, our special guest, Brookings,

1:42.2

senior fellow Molly Reynolds. Molly, Na-nu-na-nu to you as well. Do you have any idea what I'm saying?

1:47.2

Are you talking about? I think I might be learning in real time about the existence of some sort of

1:52.9

more than Mindy like reboot. Is that what we're doing? Not a reboot. Just going straight back to

1:58.0

the original thing. Dorken Mindy, rational security 2.0, the sequel. Because we're going to

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