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Hello, dear listener and welcome back to the beginning of season 11 of owning it the

anxiety podcast with me, your host and author Caroline Forin. I'm so glad to have you here.

I hope that by now you have heard my message loud and clear about owning it real time

and that you've signed up to access what my guest

right here describes as the perfect hot brain intervention. All will make sense when you listen to

this episode. Porick Walsh is my guest here. He's an expert. He's a behavioral specialist. And he

works alongside Dr. Michael Kane, who I've had in the podcast before, to break down anxiety, and he was my most

listened to guest of all time. So I figure Porc must have something interesting to say as well.

Here we talk about the difference between the hot brain and the cold brain, and we really talk

about how to approach moving from the hot brain into the cold brain. It's a really interesting

framework, and it really helps me better understand my experience of anxiety when it's

happening and I hope it will do the same for you enjoy thank you so much for agreeing to come on

owning it the anxiety podcast I am I just get so excited having an expert on like you are you are

you are to me like the Beyonce's of what to what normal people I guess feel like

mullingar's answer to the booty shake thanks for coming on and you know what when I was

I was looking at the link you sent me and only then did I connect the dots that you work with

Michael Kane I just looked at it before I came onto this podcast and I said,

what is Mike doing on here? So yeah, I work with Mike and his wife Rose and we have the actualize

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