Hello and welcome to this conversation with Director of Children's Rights

Organization then before us Katie Faust. Thank you very much for chatting with

us today. Great to be with you. Thank you. They enjoy his mind.

Yeah, well you sent me an advanced copy of your new book,

Raising Conservative Kids in a woke city, which you, Cole,

that I did also read your other book, them before us.

I admit that I had a very busy reading schedule so I managed to just

finish it before we sat down but it was brilliant so I think it was one of the best

researched arguments in favour of a children's rights charter,

a kind of declaration of dependence, if you will, and the research that you've done on the

surrogacy industry, on big fertility.

I advise everyone go out and read it,

if not just for the case studies alone,

because they're harrowing and compelling.

So first and foremost, thanks very much for doing that.

For those who aren't familiar with your work, one, they should go and watch your prints on Tim Kast, but two, do you mind dressing us down on what it is exactly that you do and why?

Yeah, I got into this during the marriage debates where everybody was discussing the definition

of marriage and for me when I saw the other side advancing their case based on the argument that, you know, kids don't care if they have two moms or two dads, they love it, you know, everything's great.

Well, what that functionally means is kids don't care if they've lost their mom or dad. That's what

when you're looking at a picture of a child with two moms or two dads, you're

looking at a picture of a child who has lost their mom or dad. And I had

worked with kids long enough to know that losing a mother or father is not only something

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