I received the call from two of my partners, and they're asking what happened to this $4.6 million

that you embezzled from Alanis.

And of course, in that moment, I still had a high ego.

I was still in denial and still lying and cheating, and said to them, guys, I'm telling you the truth.

I'll get her to sign something.

And also, if you don't believe me, why don't you, I'll take a lie detector test.

Our guest today is Jonathan Todd Schwartz, who committed a crime so cliche, there's a Seinfeld episode about it.

Jonathan was a leading entertainment manager

when he embezzled money from his superstar clients to feed his addictions. And when I say

superstar, I'm not exaggerating. Beyonce, Mariah Carey, Lincoln Park and Alanis Morissette

were just some of the people who trusted him with their money.

We begin this conversation by finding out how Jonathan achieved their trust

and became one of the biggest financial managers in Hollywood.

This is Australian True Crime.

We acknowledge the traditional owners of the land on which this podcast is created,

the Wurundri Woi Warang people of the K on which this podcast is created, the Wurundri

Woi Warang people of the Koolan Nation. And a warning, this episode of the podcast contains

discussions around suicide. I am the oldest of two. My mom and dad had myself and my younger brother. My father abandoned us when I was

four years old and my younger brother was one, forcing my young mother to take three jobs just to

put food on the table for us and a roof over our head. So it started with the abandonment, not having

a father figure in my life, a male figure.

And my mother, you know, she really just had a lot of stress. I mean, she wasn't even prepared

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