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Imaginary Worlds

The Hobbits and The Hippies

Imaginary Worlds

Eric Molinsky

Fiction, Arts, Society & Culture, Science Fiction

4.82.2K Ratings

🗓️ 7 September 2016

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

J.R.R. Tolkien wanted his work to be taken seriously. But his magnum opus The Lord of the Rings was unlike most of great literature of the mid-20th century, which was modernist or tackled the great issues of the day. And wasn't The Hobbit a children's book? The critics wondered, is this sequel supposed to be serious literature for adults? But there was a group of people who took Middle-earth very seriously and pushed this cult classic into the mainstream -- they just weren't the people Tolkien had expected. Wheaton College professor Michael Drout, Gary Lachman ("Turn Off Your Mind: The Mystic Sixties and the Dark Side of Aquarius") and Ethan Gilsdorf ("Fantasy Freaks and Gaming Geeks") explain how and why Tolkien became a folk hero to the counter-culture -- whether he liked it or not. ***This is the first in a six-part series on Magic and Fantasy***Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

You're listening to Imaginary Worlds, a show about how we create them and why we suspend

0:06.2

our disbelief.

0:07.2

I'm Eric Molinsky.

0:11.8

More than anything, he wanted his work to be taken seriously on his own terms.

0:18.8

But John Ronald Ruell Token was such an outlier in the world of academia.

0:26.7

There was a lot of nasty, snide, Oxford gossip going on for a long time.

0:35.2

So it was like, oh, he was a genius, but he ran off the rails and started writing these

0:38.9

crazed epics.

0:40.6

This is Michael Drout.

0:41.6

He teaches the work of Token at Wheaton College.

0:44.9

Token had one of the plum jobs at Oxford.

0:48.1

So he's a the Rawlinson Bosworth professor of Anglo-Saxon.

0:52.0

It meant that he had to give a number of lectures, but he had a much lower workload than

0:57.1

a lot of other Oxford professors on the understanding that he's going to produce amazing and great

1:02.5

scholarship like he had done at the beginning of his career.

1:05.6

And he produced very little and what he produced was weird.

1:10.6

Why?

1:11.6

Well, for example, he sends off to essays and studies this article on the Battle of

1:15.2

Maul and except it's not an article, it's a play in blank verse.

1:20.5

Now it's turned out to be one of the most influential things ever written about the Battle

1:23.4

of Maul.

1:24.4

But I can't imagine what the editor was thinking when he opened it.

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