The Hoax that Broke the Conservative Internet

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🗓️ 9 December 2024

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The New Discourses Podcast with James Lindsay, Ep. 152 On December 3, 2024, James Lindsay revealed to the world that he had perpetrated a hoax (https://newdiscourses.co/2024/12/a-communist-manifesto-for-christian-nationalists-testing-the-woke-right/) against the nominally "Christian Nationalist" magazine American Reformer in which he had rewritten a significant portion of the Communist Manifesto to flatter their "Woke Right" ideology. In the ensuing days, the hoax has caused quite a stir on the conservative side of the internet, generating a completely unexpected response in which, in addition to deflecting from the hoax and bashing James, many ostensible conservatives launched into robust defenses of Marxist analysis, critical theory, and postmodernism. How good was the hoax, though, and what did it actually say? In this episode of the New Discourses Podcast, host James Lindsay reads through a rough side-by-side comparison text (https://newdiscourses.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/CM-for-CN-Appendix-Docs.pdf) he prepared showing how close the hoax actually was so you can hear and decide for yourself. Join him and see if you agree that the hoax was good. New book! The Queering of the American Child: https://queeringbook.com/ Support New Discourses: https://newdiscourses.com/support Follow New Discourses on other platforms: https://newdiscourses.com/subscribe Follow James Lindsay: https://linktr.ee/conceptualjames © 2024 New Discourses. All rights reserved. #NewDiscourses #JamesLindsay #Hoax

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0:00.0	Hey, everybody. It's James Lindsay, and you are listening to the New Discourses podcast,
0:24.2	and we're going to talk about the hoax I did that broke the conservative side of the internet.
0:30.7	In fact, what I want to do in this episode is actually to go into the document that I produced,
0:36.7	not explaining myself for the hoax, which
0:39.4	I've done in writing, I've done on social media.
0:42.5	I don't feel like I really need to rehash that in a podcast.
0:46.2	I'll give it a little lip service here at the beginning.
0:48.7	But we're going to go into the document I produced where I actually did a side-by-side.
0:53.7	I'm just going to read the side by side I published.
0:56.1	That's the main purpose of this podcast where I'm going to go through the Communist
0:59.2	Manifesto, a little piece at a time.
1:01.7	Then I'm going to go through the part from American Reformer, a little bit at a time.
1:05.7	And I'm going to leave it to you all.
1:07.6	The goal here is not for me to say, whoops, nailed them to the wall,
1:11.5	although I think I did. It is for me to say, listen for yourself. Don't listen to the hype.
1:17.3	Don't listen to my claim. Don't listen to the opposing claims. All James did was change a few words or
1:23.1	most of the words. James changed 90% of the words. That was a functionally illiterate criticism, by the way. If you saw that red text criticism that was put out by a guy named Jim Hansen
1:30.8	and spread by all of the little deflectionists, what you're going to discover is that what they did
1:35.6	is put into Microsoft Word and saw how many words are in different places. That's functionally illiterate
1:40.6	as the words and sentences don't have meaning or content to their meaning.
1:45.8	Oh, James just copied the rhetoric.
1:46.8	Is that what I did?
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