From the historic campus of Hillsdale College in Hillsdale, Michigan,

where the good, the true, and the beautiful are taught, nurtured, and honored,

this is the Radio Free Hillsdale Hour, bringing the activity and education of the college to listeners across the country.

We want people to take seriously what they are doing in terms of their culture, what they're doing in terms of their art.

If their art turns sour sooner or later than usually sooner, their lives, their society, their politics will turn sour.

This is your host, Scott Bertram.

Welcome to the Radio Free Hillsdale Hour, part of the Hillsdale College Podcast Network.

That was Dr. Alan Gelzo, author of The Golden Thread, A History of the Western Tradition.

We'll talk in depth with Dr. Gelsso about that later on in today's program.

Also coming up, Michael P. Foley, his new book, Obstaining with the Saints,

no and Low Alcohol Beverage for Sober Souls.

That's later on in today's show.

First, we're joined by Dr. Alan Gelsso. He is a professor of humanities at the Hamilton School for Classical and Civic Education at the

University of Florida. Also a best-selling author most recently, Robert E. Lee, A Life. He's back

with a brand new, big, two-volume book, The Golden Thread. He writes

the second part on the modern and contemporary West. Dr. Gelsso, thank you for joining us.

All right. Very good to be speaking with you today, Scott.

This is a massive undertaking of people haven't had the chance to see the books yet. It's

two volumes and each are around 1,000 pages. Now, you've spent a lifetime writing about American

history and Western civilization. What about this project felt necessary right now and give

people an overview of what they could expect across

both volumes?

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