So today we have a special guest. His name is Jarrett Stepman, and Jared is a friend of mine. He's also quite experienced in the podcast world. He's the podcast host as well, co-host of the podcast, The Right Side of History. And he's also the author of the book The War on History. So he is a seasoned veteran

of talking about history. And you're a fellow history nerd, just like I am. So I think we also

kind of run in the same circles. So we've been talking about having you on the podcast here.

You've been someone we've targeted. So it's good to have you on here. How are you doing?

I'm doing very well. It's good to finally be on your show, Richard. It's definitely my pleasure

to finally be on and be able to talk a lot of history with you. Yeah, exactly. So, well, obviously,

this is an election year. And every four years, we Americans have this crazy process to choose

a citizen, one of our own, to lead our country for the next four years. This year will be

our 59th presidential election. And we

believe, just as we've said throughout this podcast, that history has a lot to say and offers

lessons for things that are going on right now in the world. It's not something where you can mine specific

answers, but it's something that you can get wisdom from. And so that's why we love talking about it

and talking about elections and what previous elections have to offer. And one topic I wanted to

talk about, it's related to things that have just happened, the selection of a vice president.

And that's always a very hotly anticipated event during elections. And selecting a vice president

is always fascinating to me because it's not an exact science, right? There are different ways

of thinking of who you should select as a

vice president. And we've seen examples of nominees, presidential nominees, selecting the running

mates based on geographic balancing, based on ideological balancing. Sometimes they'll double down

and go for kind of the same type of person as the presidential

nominee. We saw that during Clinton and Dole, and Clinton and Gore, rather, two southern

moderate candidates of their day. And there's a lot to going into choosing a vice president

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