Just how revolutionary a figure was Rolling Stone founder, Jan Winner?

Joe Hagen is here to talk about his acclaimed biography, Sticky Fingers.

To what extent did food, drive, and reflect the expansion of the British Empire?

Simon Winchester will be here to talk about two new books about tea, food, and the British Empire.

Plus, we'll talk about what we hear at the Booker View are reading.

This is Inside the New York Times Booker View. I'm Pamela Paul.

Joe Hagen is here now to talk about his new book, Sticky Fingers, the Life and Times of

Jan Winner and Rolling Stone magazine, and also joining us. My colleague, John Williams.

Joe, thanks for being here. Thank you. All right, so how did you get involved in this project?

Well, a few years ago, I left the city and moved upstate into the Hudson Valley,

region of New York. One day, I was working in a local cafe on my laptop and in Waxian Winner,

who I recognized immediately and was perplexed as to what he was doing there.

So I just went up and said hello to him and said, hey, Jan Winner, what are you doing in

Little Tivoli, New York? Right. Were you a lifelong Rolling Stone reader,

Jan Winner fan? Well, Rolling Stone, yes. I first was a huge rock and roll fan, just huge

music fan. And I had interned at Rolling Stone. In fact, I moved to New York in 1995 to intern

at Rolling Stone. And later as a media reporter, I had had an audience with Jan to chat with him,

and he dropped his names as he does about Mick Jagger and all this. But so I had didn't really know him,

but here I was talking to him. After I got to know him socially for about a year, the subject of

doing his biography came up during a lunch that we had. And that's how the whole adventure began.

No, but you were not the first person to contemplate doing a biography. No, there had been one attempt

that lasted five years that had a contract. Lewis McAdams was the guy's name. He was somebody

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