On the new episode of the Larry Arn show, Hillsdale College President Larry Arn

sits down with theologian and CS Lewis scholar Michael Ward for a one-on-one

conversation. Isn't that too bad children's story ends tragically?

Well, it's a bold move. I agree to kill off literally every character

and destroy the world that you've just spent previous six books creating.

The amazing thing is that he manages to pull it off as well as he does.

Listen to this exclusive interview with Michael Ward right now, only available on the Larry Arne Show.

Find it on the Hillsdale College Podcast Network at podcast

at podcast.hillsdale.

EDU or wherever you get your audio and

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podcast dot hillsdale dot edu. dot E.DU. Morning glory and evening, Grace America.

This is the Hew Hewitt Show on a special edition day.

It's part five of our tour of Western Civilization,

under the able guidance of Dr. Larry Arne,

Historian Extraordinary philosopher student,

and President of Hillsdale College in Michigan.

If you've been listening to any or all of our past four hours,

you'll know that we've covered quite a lot of ground

and we're getting into the moderns now

as we round into the last two hours of this special New Year's Edition originally taped for

our on December 31st 2001 January 1st 2002. We are now into sort of the height

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