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Welcome to another episode of Conversations with Coleman. My guest today is Jacob Macham Gama.

Jacob is a lawyer and writer based in Denmark. He's the

founder of Justicia, a think tank focused on human rights and freedom of speech. And he's the

producer and narrator of the excellent podcast called Clear and Present Danger. Jacob and I discuss his

excellent new book, Free Speech, A History, from Socrates to

social media. We talk about the Danish cartoon controversy and Charlie Hebdo. We talk about so-called

Milton's Curse, which is the habit of hypocritically defending free speech for some, but not for

others. And I think this point is relevant to some of the

bands that we've been seeing on Russian state news. We talk about the notion of power relations and its

relationship to free speech. We discuss the relationship between censorship and human nature.

We talk about the importance of having a culture of free speech in addition to having

laws that nominally protect it. We talk about the origins of what Jacob calls egalitarian free

speech in ancient Athens. We discuss the First Amendment and its evolving interpretation over time.

We talk about the alleged exceptions to protected speech, such as hate speech or shouting

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