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PBS News Hour - Segments

The history of civil service and the impact of Trump’s slashing of the workforce

PBS News Hour - Segments

PBS NewsHour

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4.11K Ratings

🗓️ 14 March 2025

⏱️ 8 minutes

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Summary

President Trump gave federal agencies a deadline this week to implement a large-scale reduction in force. The order would not only lay off thousands more government employees but eliminate positions altogether. Lisa Desjardins takes a look at the history of the civil service and the attempts to change its size and influence over time. PBS News is supported by - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/about/funders

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0:00.0

This week marked President Trump's deadline for federal agencies to launch mass firings.

0:06.4

So far, tens of thousands of staff have been forced out. Courts have reversed some of Trump's

0:11.5

moves and upheld others. This has been a source of pride for the president and a nightmare for many

0:16.8

workers. But as Lisa Desjardin reports, it's part of a much older debate over the Federal

0:22.4

Civil Service. The U.S. government is the largest employer in the country with 3 million

0:29.5

civilian workers. They do everything from delivering your mail to keeping our food supply safe,

0:35.1

to producing legions of studies.

0:37.6

To some, that's an American strength.

0:40.1

To others, including President Trump, a bloated system to dismantle.

0:44.5

We are draining the swamp.

0:46.5

It's very simple.

0:47.9

And the days of rule by unelected bureaucrats are over.

0:53.1

President Trump's actions are unique in some ways, firing tens of thousands of federal

0:57.6

workers in the first six weeks.

1:00.0

But this debate over the role and size of federal government is nearly as old as this country,

1:05.8

and it is core to how U.S. democracy operates.

1:09.8

There's been an ongoing contest about what the proper size of the federal government is,

1:15.6

what the federal workforce should look like, how big it should be, and in particular, what it should be doing.

1:22.6

Going back to President Andrew Jackson and 1829, who quickly cut 20% of the federal workforce

1:30.2

and hired party loyalists.

1:32.1

Being hired as a federal worker had everything to do with your political orientation

1:36.6

and your loyalty to the party and not much to do with your qualifications or your expertise

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