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Past Present Future

The History of Bad Ideas: Identity

Past Present Future

D&HR Media Ltd

Society & Culture, History, News, Politics, Philosophy

4.8747 Ratings

🗓️ 17 July 2025

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Summary

For the final episode in our current series on the history of bad ideas, David talks to philosopher Alexander Douglas about the damage that can be done by the idea of identity. Why is the search for a distinctive personal identity such a futile quest? How does it lead to an identity politics of exclusion and violence? What can we learn from the philosopher Spinoza about having an identity without identity? And what can we glean from the experience of dementia about losing ourselves? 'Against Identity: The Wisdom of Escaping the Self' by Alexander Douglas is out now wherever you get your books https://bit.ly/40d8xES Available from Saturday on PPF+: Part 2 of David’s conversation with Alexander Douglas in which they talk about how Silicon Valley took a philosophical concept of identity and turned it into a commodity to be marketed. Plus, how should we think about ‘impostor syndrome’? To get this and all our bonus episodes plus ad-free listening sign up now to PPF+ https://www.ppfideas.com/join-ppf-plus Next time we return to Politics on Trial with an 18th-century blockbuster: Warren Hastings vs the British Empire Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, my name's David Rundserman and this is past, present future, the History of Ideas podcast.

0:16.6

Today, it's the last episode in the current run of the history of bad ideas. We will be coming

0:22.4

back to this subject. We are not going to run out of bad ideas. But for today, it's an idea

0:27.7

we've wanted to talk about in this series for a while. The idea is identity. And I'm speaking

0:33.7

to the philosopher Alexander Douglas, who has just published a book called Against Identity,

0:39.7

The Wisdom of Escaping the Self. It's a brilliant book, and it's full of really interesting ideas.

0:52.9

Alex, we're talking about an idea today, which on one level is familiar to everybody, identity.

0:59.5

We're also going to be talking about a philosopher, Spinoza, who is, let's just confess this

1:04.8

up front, certainly it's true for me anyway, quite difficult, a challenging philosopher,

1:10.4

and some of the ideas might be a bit unfamiliar.

1:13.3

So we're going to be bridging the ground between a very familiar concept and maybe a way of

1:18.5

thinking about it, which is it's a bit of a stretch, but it's worth it. People should stick with this.

1:24.1

But before we do that, we should probably just talk through the idea itself. And also,

1:27.7

I'm very conscious this is in a series called The History of Bad Ideas. You have written a book

1:32.1

called Against Identity. But I don't think you're saying, or I would want to say, that identity

1:37.3

is just a bad idea because it is a completely necessary idea. You can't really be human

1:42.4

without being involved in the search for identity.

1:45.9

So maybe that's where we should start. What do you mean by identity? You're against it in some sense,

1:51.5

but you're also not saying that it's the sort of thing that it was a mistake to come up with in the

1:55.5

first place. So what is it that we're talking about here? And using identity in, I think, the most core philosophical sense,

2:03.6

which you can go back to the very etymology of the word, comes from the Latin, edem,

2:09.1

which just means the same. No, when I said edem, we say one and the same. Identity, in the sense

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