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It's the Brian Lerosho on WNYC. Good morning again everyone.

Now a very informed take on the history behind the movie Oppenheimer.

Fred Kaplan, Military Affairs columnist for Slate,

has written two books on the subject, The Wizards of Armageddon,

which came out in the 80s.

And his much more recent 2021 book, The Bomb,

Presidents Generals and the Secret History of Nuclear War,

for which he was on the show for a book interview.

Now he's also written a kind of historical fact check article

slash movie review about Oppenheimer on Slate.

Spoiler alert, he says most of it, including some parts

that might seem unreal or real.

And by the way, Fred also has a much shorter piece

about the geopolitical implications of the Barbie movie,

believe it or not, so we'll touch on that too.

Fred always go to have you on.

Welcome back to WNYC.

Well, anytime.

You write the film, Oppenheimer, is a mind-blower

both for director Christopher Nolan's artistic innovations

and also because of the story itself.

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