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A Thousand Natural Shocks With Gabe S. Dunn

The History and Future of Dress Codes

A Thousand Natural Shocks With Gabe S. Dunn

Gabe Dunn | Diamond MPrint Productions

News, Society & Culture, News Commentary, Education, History, Personal Journals, Self-improvement

4.52.6K Ratings

🗓️ 11 August 2021

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

In response to MANY emails from you all, Gaby delves into the classist and racist background of the work dress code. First, they interview reporter Amanda Mull who is the author of the article "After The Pandemic, The Office Dress Code Should Never Come Back." What should you wear to work? How was business casual invented? What will we wear post-Covid? Then, Gaby interviews Stanford professor Rich Ford, author of the history of fashion tome "Dress Codes: How The Laws of Fashion Made History." Ford gives the history of "proper dress" from the 1300s until today's lawsuits about Black women's hairstyles, trans peoples' work clothes, gendered school uniforms, and all the ways that dress codes affect work. Plus, a personal story about Gaby's history with dress codes and shoplifting. This episode includes a conversation with Black author Rich Ford about anti-Black racism and use of terms that may be troubling. Please take care while listening. Follow Gaby Dunn on Instagram: @GabyRoad Follow Bad With Money on Instagram: @BWMpod Join the Bad With Money Community on Facebook: facebook.com/groups/398914378105641/ Shop gabydunn.com/shop for merch! Follow Amanda Mull on Twitter; @AmandaMull Learn more about Rich Ford at DressCodes.org Bad with Money is produced and edited by Lindsey Floyd. It is sound engineered and mixed by Joey Salvia. The Executive Producer is Lindsey Floyd. The theme song was performed by Sam Barbara and written by Myq Kaplan, Zach Sherwin, and Jack Dolgen. Additional music by Joey Salvia. Transcript: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1crQSrsFlDvLspvdWEuggmmoy02eeOOyUIJFEsg_CKVw/edit?usp=sharing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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0:00.0

You got problems that you ought to be concerned with, blah!

0:04.0

You don't know how you're supposed to earn it or what to do with it or how to keep it.

0:08.0

You're a freak with a dark shame, full secret, but you're not the only one

0:13.0

Teach your inner financial fears to the blessed sun

0:16.0

Now your healing has begun, it's bad with money with Gabby!

0:21.0

Done! Hi, I'm Gabby Dunn, and this is my show, Bad with Money.

0:27.0

Dress codes! It's a topic a bunch of my listeners asked me to do an episode about.

0:33.0

You've had experiences with having to pay for your own work uniforms that then get destroyed by doing that very work.

0:41.0

You've been told your hairstyles are inappropriate simply because you aren't white.

0:46.0

You've been forced to wear heels while standing for long hours despite documented disabilities.

0:52.0

Many of you can't afford to have separate closets for work clothes and weekend clothes.

0:58.0

And it's not just for work.

1:00.0

School dress codes are also sexist, ableist, transphobic, racist.

1:05.0

I hate school dress codes. I hate them.

1:09.0

And so, as dress codes have come up again and again in your messages to me,

1:15.0

and as I also despise them, we're going to break down American and-or Western dress codes in this here episode today.

1:25.0

Because a harmful school dress codes are a pipeline to harmful work dress codes.

1:30.0

And this has to stop because it is gross and awful.

1:35.0

And classist.

1:37.0

And even if you don't have specific nasty circumstances, you've written to me to say you're generally worried about what to wear to work.

1:44.0

Pre-pandemic, some of you were expected to wear suits and ties. Some had to wear skirts.

1:50.0

You didn't know if your boss saying the dress code was, quote, unquote, business casual,

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