From the ACLU, this is at Liberty.

I'm Emerson Sykes, a staff attorney here at the ACLU and your host.

On October 8th, the Supreme Court will hear an extremely important set of cases, deciding

whether LGBTQ employees are protected under federal sex discrimination laws.

In one case before the court, the ACLU is representing Amy Stevens, a trans woman who was

fired after she came out to her employer.

With us today, to take a deep dive into the Stevens case and the broader fight for trans rights is one of Amy's lawyers, my formidable colleague Chase Strangio, deputy director of the ACLU's LGBT and HIV project, and as of last week, an Emmy Award winner.

Chase, thanks very much for joining us today. Welcome back to the podcast.

Thanks for having me. So I can't start anywhere except the Emmy Red Carpet. What on earth were you

doing at the Emmys? Well, this was a surprising turn of events in my life. When I went to law school,

I didn't think, you know what, I'm going to make it to the prime time Emmy Red Carpet.

But last week, I went with

Laverne Cox to the Emmys. Our goal was really to raise awareness about the cases before the

Supreme Court that are answering the question of our LGBTQ people covered under federal law.

And it felt like no one was talking about it. and what better context in the United States than a big

pop culture celebrity event to try to raise awareness. So we went. Well, it's great and you looked

great and the pictures were great. And so you were there to raise awareness. Laverin had an amazing hand

clutch that had October 8th on it and a rainbow flag. It was really cool. But you

weren't only a guest at the Emmys. You and our colleague Molly Kaplan also won an Emmy. Can you

tell us about that project? Yeah. So two days later at the news and documentary Emmys,

the ACLU was nominated for a film about Kai Shapley, who's a young trans girl in Texas.

And the film just sort of follows her journey with her mom and her family coming out as trans and them coming to terms with her transness.

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