Good morning. Welcome to Axios today. It's Friday, April 7th. I'm Nailibudu. Today, the generosity

of religious Americans. But first, the historic nature of former President Trump's indictment

is our one big thing. Given how much the word historic has been thrown around this week,

I wanted to catch up with Axios co-founder Mike Allen about the former President's criminal

indictment. Full disclosure, we recorded today's podcast earlier than usual because I'm actually

taking some time off for the Easter holiday and we'll be doing the show from the UK all next week,

where I'll be at the Skull Foundation's World Forum. So here's Mike with his thoughts for our

Friday State of Play, Trump Edition. Hi, Mike. Hello, Nailibudu. First, you have spent most of your

career in Washington covering presidents as far back as George W. Bush. How do you think this week

ranks in terms of the history books? There's no comparison of any sort. Somebody was saying that

this is the biggest indictment in the history of indictment. So how do you top that? But what's

fascinating, Naila, is it wasn't a singular event. This is a beginning of months, probably years

of Trump crime drama. It's almost as if the Trump show meets court TV. So, you know, we often say

journalists do a first draft of history. Given what you've said, how much can we say how much

this indictment or future ones are going to have an effect on the 2024 presidential election?

This is helping Trump. Nobody even really disputes it. Not even people who are running against him

or want to run against him. In fact, Naila, I have reporting that some people who are thinking

about running against him may be a little gunshot because he's gone up so much in polls,

doing so well in fundraising. But of course, whoever gets the Republican nomination,

fair to say that if you're to pick a demographic group that's going to decide the 2024

general election, a big part of this can be women voters, suburban women voters in particular.

And there's nothing to say that a standard bearer who's been under arrest is something that's

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