This is exactly right.

I'm Kate Winkler-Dawson. I'm a journalist who's spent the last 25 years writing about true crime.

And I'm Paul Holes, a retired cold case investigator whose work some of America's most complicated cases

and solve them.

Each week, I present Paul with one of history's most compelling true crimes.

And I weigh in using modern forensic techniques to bring new insights to old mysteries.

Together, using our individual expertise, we're examining historical true crime cases through a 21st century lens.

Some are solved and some are cold, very cold. This is buried bones. Hey, Paul.

Hey, Kate, how are you?

I'm great. Guess what we're doing?

Tell me.

We have a Patreon. You and I have a Patreon.

It's called, Hey, it's Kate and Paul, Patreon.com slash Kate and Paul.

And we started this because there's buried bones.

You know, we talk about the old cases and then there is everything else in our lives and there is so much going on.

I can't even tell you, right?

Well, it is cool.

You know, one of the things about it is we are letting our viewers and listeners see different parts of us than just what they have seen in the past.

Correct.

And not in the naughty sense.

We do movie reviews, movie review. What was the top movie review for you that we've done so far?

What was it? So far it's Silence of the Lambs. Oh, creepy. We've had a lot of people ask about that.

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