meta_pixel
Tapesearch Logo
Log in
Mormon Discussions Podcasts – Full Lineup

The Hill Cumorah: Why did the LDS Church & its apologists relocate it?

Mormon Discussions Podcasts – Full Lineup

Bill Reel

Religion & Spirituality

4.3618 Ratings

🗓️ 10 April 2026

⏱️ 12 minutes

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

For most of Mormon history, Latter-day Saints believed the Hill Cumorah in Palmyra, New York was the very place where the final battles of the Book of Mormon took place and where Moroni buried the gold plates that Joseph Smith would later retrieve. But in recent decades, a growing number of LDS scholars and apologists… Read More »The Hill Cumorah: Why did the LDS Church & its apologists relocate it?

The post The Hill Cumorah: Why did the LDS Church & its apologists relocate it? appeared first on Mormon Discussions Podcasts - Full Lineup.

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0

Welcome to another episode of Mormon Discussion Podcast. I'm your host, Bill Real, and today we're going to talk about the Hill Comorah, namely it being in Palmyra, New York, and then suddenly the church and its apologist needing to move it to an unknown place.

0:17.5

Maybe it's in South America. Maybe it's in Central America. We don't know, but let's find out

0:23.1

why we don't know. The Book of Mormon ends with a catastrophic final battle. Two massive civilizations,

0:30.5

the Nephites, and the Lamanites gathered at a hill called Camorra. According to the text,

0:36.5

hundreds of thousands, even millions of people

0:39.4

fought and died there. The destruction was so complete that Mormon, the record keeper, buried the

0:46.2

writings of his people upon plates in that very hill before his people were wiped out. Moroni,

0:53.4

the final survivor, took some of those plates,

0:56.7

added his final words, and over a thousand years later, Moronai appeared to Joseph Smith and told him

1:03.4

where to find that smaller set of plates that would make up the Book of Mormon. Joseph was directed to

1:10.4

a hill near his home in Palmyra,

1:12.5

New York, and that hill has been identified by the church as the hill Camorra ever since.

1:20.4

Now this creates a simple expectation. If a massive civilization ending battle took place there,

1:27.2

the physical evidence should still exist.

1:30.2

Large battles leave large remains and items behind, weapons, armor, tools, and of course, mass graves,

1:40.7

signs of fortifications, and human remains.

1:49.6

But after nearly two centuries of observation, excavation, and study,

1:54.0

no such evidence has been found at the Hill Comorah in New York.

1:56.8

No remains of massive armies.

1:59.3

No remains of advanced civilizations.

2:05.5

No evidence of large-scale warfare, nothing matching the description in the Book of Mormon. Even faithful apologists have acknowledged that New York's

2:11.6

Camorra is a clean hill, meaning it has no evidence of Book of Mormon events taking place there. Now, this creates

...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Bill Reel, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of Bill Reel and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.

Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.