Hi, I'm David Steinwin. I'm not talking to other people about money on money for the rest of us. I'm stacking Benjamin's.

Live from Joe's mom's basement, Doug, and there's lots of screaming and yelling lately in the basement with the NBA finals and the NHL finals going on.

And to think in high school, I hated finals.

Now I love them. if you're finally thinking about diving into real estate see what I did there take notes people this is a master

class man do we have a great guess for you today help us welcome real estate investor extraordinaire, Dana Bull.

Joe, how are we not making fun of that last name? Not polite since when do we care about being

polite on this show? Okay, okay. Plus, a recent piece in the economist says that life insurance isn't innovating.

What do life insurance companies have to say about that?

Joining us from Haven Life, we welcome Laura McKeown-Boyland.

Speaking of Haven Life, we'll throw out the Haven Lifeline to Rob, who has some book recommendations,

and we'll also share more headlines, more letters, and of course, more trivia. And now, two guys who are still riding

off my coattails, Joe and O J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-G. Well, it's not about the coat tails. It's the fact that he wears that tuxedo with the long tails and we trip down the stairs every time he walks in front of us. Why does he do that? I'm not riding his coattails. I'm tripping on them. Hey, welcome to another tripping over stuff podcast. I'm Joe S C. Hi, Ivers Joe Money on Twitter and across

the card table, that sultry voice you hear is the OG. Surly. I think you mean surly.

Surly, sultry. It's all the same, isn't it? Happy NBA finals to you, my friend. Oh, gosh. And only the

first time since 2017, the Warriors are going to meet the Cavaliers. It's a so it's really great. Surprising matchup, isn't it? Yep. Way more surprising than the fact that Slack is supporting stacking Benjamins because I'll tell you, we support Slack. We love Slack. We love Slack. I slacked Richie today. Slack, for those

of you heathens that don't know what it is, it's a collaboration hub for work that makes sure

the right people and your team are always in the loop and key information is always at your fingertips.

Learn more at Slack.com. We've had lots of slacks going back and forth in the last few days,

not just years to Richie, but we have channels like our social media channel. We've got our

general message, stacking Benjamins channel. Podcast work group. All kinds of fun. So Slack.

Only sign up for the ones you need. You don't need to be in every channel. I learned that.

You did learn that, did you? There are some places You don't need to be in every channel. I learned that. You did learn that, did you?

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