The Higher Stocks Rise the Harder They Fall with Jeff Toporek of FD Stonewater

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🗓️ 11 December 2023

⏱️ 60 minutes

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On this episode of “On The Tape,” Dan Nathan, Guy Adami, and Liz Young give a preview of the week ahead, including the last Fed meeting of the year. Dan and Guy sit down with Jeff Toporek of FD Stonewater for a conversation about commercial real estate and interest rates. Key Insights from the Pod: Bond Volatility Outpacing Equity Volatility (3:30) Inconsistencies in the Stock Market (5:00) Geopolitical Risk (Check out: Mark Esper Interview with Kara Swisher) (12:30) What’s Being Priced into the Market in 2024 (15:30) Investor Appetite for M&A (Occidental, Macy’s) (18:35) Ken Moelis Sees ‘Huge Backlog’ of Deals After Fed’s Rate-Hike Regime (20:15) Oracle & Adobe Earnings (23:00) Valuation (25:00) Costco Chart: Mother of Double Tops? (28:15) Jeff Toporek Intro/Background (33:25) Interest Rate Volatility (35:30) Credit Lending (44:10) Corporate Logistics (37:30) Inflation (50:00) China Risk (52:25) Commercial Real Estate (56:45) Active vs. Passive Investing (1:00:15) — About the Show: On The Tape is a weekly podcast with CNBC Fast Money’s Guy Adami, Dan Nathan and Danny Moses. They’re offering takes on the biggest market-moving headlines of the week, trade ideas, in-depth analysis, tips and advice. Each episode, they are joined by prominent Wall Street participants to help viewers make smarter investment decisions. Bear market, bull market, recession, inflation or deflation… we’re here to help guide your portfolio into the green. Risk Reversal brings you years of experience from former Wall Street insiders trading stocks to experts in the commodity market. — Check out our show notes here Learn more about Ro body: ro.co/tape See what adding futures can do for you at cmegroup.com/onthetape. — Shoot us an email at [email protected] with any feedback, suggestions, or questions for us to answer on the pod and follow us @OnTheTapePod on Twitter or @riskreversalmedia on Threads — We’re on social: Follow @GuyAdami on Twitter Follow Danny Moses @DMoses34 on Twitter Follow Liz Young @LizYoungStrat on Twitter Follow us on Instagram @RiskReversalMedia Subscribe to our YouTube page The financial opinions expressed in Risk Reversal content are for information purposes only. The opinions expressed by the hosts and participants are not an attempt to influence specific trading behavior, investments, or strategies. Past performance does not necessarily predict future outcomes. No specific results or profits are assured when relying on Risk Reversal. Before making any investment or trade, evaluate its suitability for your circumstances and consider consulting your own financial or investment advisor. The financial products discussed in Risk Reversal carry a high level of risk and may not be appropriate for many investors. If you have uncertainties, it's advisable to seek professional advice. Remember that trading involves a risk to your capital, so only invest money that you can afford to lose. Derivatives are not suitable for all investors and involve the risk of losing more than the amount originally deposited and any profit you might have made. This communication is not a recommendation or offer to buy, sell or retain any specific investment or service.

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0:00.0	Welcome to the Monday edition of On the Tape podcast.
0:04.5	I am Dan Nathan,
0:05.1	joined as always by Guy Adami and Liz Young.
0:08.7	That would be EY from SoFi.
0:11.8	Welcome people.
0:12.8	What up?
0:13.8	We have a huge show.
0:15.5	Guy and I had a great conversation late last week with Jeff Teporic.
0:18.3	He is the principal and co-founder at FD Stonewater.
0:21.7	We talked about the constipated commercial real estate lending market.
0:26.0	That was a term that he used, guy.
0:27.7	It was in his notes, and we had to go right there because it was actually interesting.
0:31.3	I think it was a good use of the term, not the way that you might use it after we are doing a segment on, I don't know, Chipotle or something like
0:37.9	that. That's a term that we often use. But we also talked about the logistics market,
0:42.3	de-globalization, reshoring, and just really some of the investments that they're making,
0:46.6	some of the trends that they are seeing. It was a great conversation. So stick around for that.
0:50.4	We have a big week. I know that we're moving our way into year end. We have the Fed,
0:54.3	the all important last Fed meeting after the all important last jobs report. We're going to
0:59.1	talk about that. We're going to talk about the moving yields. We're going to talk about just
1:01.8	equities melting up. I know the guy, this is going to get you all worked up here, but it seems
1:05.8	like more and more of the financial press are using that term, the everything rally. And there's also some other terms that are being thrown out to describe what the Friday Jobs report was like, but
1:16.1	we're not going to say that just yet here. We got some earnings still, big software names,
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