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The hidden cost of the Afghanistan war (Pt 1): Trauma

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3.91.6K Ratings

🗓️ 17 January 2022

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Today's episode contains strong language, discussions of suicide, and descriptions of violence in war that some listeners might find distressing.

The first of a two-part investigation into the impact of the Afghanistan war for British troops. 55 soldiers from one regiment died in the campaign — 22 took their own lives back home. Why have so many suffered? War correspondent Anthony Loyd talks to members of 2 Rifles.

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Guest: Anthony Loyd, Foreign Correspondent, The Times.

Host: Manveen Rana.

Clips: BBC, Sky News.


If you've been affected by any of the issues discussed in today's episode, the following helplines can provide support:

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PTSD Resolution: 0300 302 0551

SSAFA - the Armed Forces Charity helpline: 0800 260 6767

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0:00.0

Before we start a warning, today's episode contains strong language, discussions of suicide

0:08.6

and descriptions of violence in war that some listeners might find distressing.

0:20.4

We're at a boxing club in Liverpool, a meeting place for ex-soldiers who served in Afghanistan

0:27.8

and a support network for those scarred by the wall.

0:33.4

For some, it's the only way they have of processing the trauma and the defeat.

0:57.8

In the second second, jump by the wall, you're going to be a boi.

1:18.8

Last August.

1:21.8

In one provincial capital after another, the Taliban are running up their colours

1:26.8

and taking control.

1:35.8

The Taliban regain control faster than almost anyone expected.

1:40.8

After 20 years, British troops watched as everything they fought for crumbled.

1:47.8

The war gone by still haunts their memories and claims lives, even as it fades from the headlines.

1:57.8

You're listening to stories of our times from the Times and the Sunday Times.

2:02.8

I'm Manvin Rana.

2:04.8

Today, the first of a special two-part investigation, PTSD and the war, part one, the trauma.

2:16.8

I'm Anthony Lloyd and I'm a foreign correspondent for the Times.

2:19.8

And Aunt, since Afghanistan fell to the Taliban last summer,

2:24.8

you've been speaking to former members of two rifles, an infantry battalion in the Army,

2:30.8

who did tours of Afghanistan just over a decade ago.

2:34.8

Tell me why.

2:36.8

Why now? Why this battalion?

2:39.8

There are a number of reasons why I wanted to focus on two rifles.

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