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Afford Anything

The Hidden Cost of Replacing You at Work, with “Money with Katie” host Katie Gatti Tassin

Afford Anything

Paula Pant | Cumulus Podcast Network

Entrepreneurship, Business, Investing

4.63.4K Ratings

🗓️ 1 July 2025

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

#620: You probably think your value to your employer equals your paycheck. Katie Gatti Tassin has news for you — you're worth way more than that. The host of "Money with Katie" recently joined us to break down a framework that could change how you negotiate forever. Her formula is simple: Your worth equals your market rate plus what it costs to replace you, raised to the power of your unique skills. Most people focus only on market rate — what similar jobs pay in your area. You can find this through salary transparency laws, LinkedIn data, or job postings. But that's just the starting point. The real eye-opener? Replacement costs. When you leave, companies face recruiting fees, interview time, onboarding expenses, and lost productivity. For mid-level roles, recruiters charge 15 to 25 percent of your first-year salary. Senior positions cost even more — headhunters for executive roles charge 25 to 35 percent of total compensation. A company replacing an $80,000 employee might pay $20,000 just in recruiter fees. For a $200,000 executive, that jumps to $70,000. Add training time and the productivity gap while they search, and replacement costs can hit 50 to 200 percent of annual salary. Then there's your "special sauce" — the unique value you bring. Maybe you have deep client relationships, specialized skills, or institutional knowledge that would take months for a replacement to develop. Katie learned this framework through her own career pivots. She started as an ad copywriter but shifted into user experience writing after working closely with a UX designer who told her the pay was much better. That internal pivot positioned her for an external move that doubled her compensation from $70,000 to $140,000. Katie had to catch a flight — she visited our New York studios during her book launch tour — but the conversation covers practical tactics for earning more and building wealth. For more information, visit the show notes at https://affordanything.com/episode620 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey there, quick disclaimer before you get started.

0:02.3

Today's interview is shorter than usual, but you know what?

0:04.3

That means it's more efficient.

0:05.7

Enjoy.

0:07.6

You know Money with Katie, one of the most popular personal finance podcasts out there.

0:12.0

Katie Gotti Tassan now has a new book called Rich Girl Nation, and we're going to talk all about money, including a new take on how much you should be saving for retirement. Welcome to the Afford

0:22.3

Anything Podcast, the show that knows you can afford anything, not everything. This show covers

0:26.5

five pillars. Financial Psychology, Increasing your income, investing, real estate and entrepreneurship.

0:31.4

It's double-eye fire. I'm your host, Paula Pant, and welcome, Katie. Thank you. I'm so happy to

0:36.0

be here. I love your tagline, by the way.

0:37.8

Oh, thank you. Afford anything but not everything. I came up with it when I was traveling,

0:41.5

and so many people said I would love to do that, but I can't afford it. But they were the same

0:46.0

people who were buying $15 cocktails and they had stainless steel appliances and their rented apartments.

0:51.4

I was like, if you made just a couple of changes, right,

0:54.3

rent a less nice apartment with white appliances instead of stainless steel. The white fridge.

0:59.8

Right? Yeah, exactly, exactly. And that might be a $200 a month differential, which is $2,400 a year.

1:05.8

And so you do that for a couple of years, right? Do that for three years. Now you've got 7,500 in the bank. That plus

1:12.4

this and that and the other. You can save 10 grand. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. On the topic of saving,

1:18.3

Katie, you've got a new fresh spin on how much a person should be saving for retirement.

1:24.4

Yes. So this was an idea that I came up with because I felt as though as I was reaching,

1:29.7

I was still having a hard time deciding with my income. How aggressive should I be right now?

1:35.3

Should I continue to be pedal to the metal foot on the gas or can I ease up a little bit?

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