The heroism of Zelensky
The Two Matts
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4.4 • 523 Ratings
🗓️ 27 February 2025
⏱️ 43 minutes
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What is Trump’s real objective? And what do European leaders do now, as the reality that the President of the United States is not simply indifferent to their fate, but actively hostile. Trump hasn’t just abandoned Ukraine - he’s actually switched sides and in siding with Russia over the carve up of its territory and mineral wealth, has sealed the coffin lid on what we grew up knowing as The West. Only one man emerges with integrity and understanding of what Trump wants and how to deal with him - President Zelensky of Ukraine. The Matts assess his role in these most extraordinary and turbulent times.
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| 1:06.6 | God bless them all. |
| 1:07.4 | Well, it's been a hell of a week. |
| 1:08.7 | It has, and we're recording this before Keir Stahma has his momentous meeting with Donald Trump. |
| 1:14.7 | Yeah. |
| 1:15.5 | In the White House. |
| 1:16.9 | But we'll have a lot to say about all that. |
| 1:18.8 | And I thought it might be worth getting a blast of what Trump's, one of the many things Trump said at his rather Politburoish cabinet meeting yesterday, Wednesday. |
| 1:30.1 | So maybe we can have a last of that. |
| 1:31.9 | But I love the countries of Europe. |
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