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UnJustified

The Hero We Need (feat. Cathy Harris)

UnJustified

MSW Media

News, News Commentary, History, Politics

4.87.4K Ratings

🗓️ 17 August 2025

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

Attorney General Pam Bondi has purportedly removed the District of Columbia police chief and replaced her with the head of the DEA as an emergency police commissioner. The DC Attorney General has filed suit against this takeover. DC US Attorney Jeanine Pirro's office has admitted it’s having a hard time securing grand jury indictments against DC protesters for interfering with immigration and customs enforcement. A group of former national security and FBI officials has issued a warning about the ongoing purge inside the FBI. Plus, we speak with former Merit Systems Protection Board Member Cathy Harris about her wrongful termination. Plus listener questions… Do you have questions for the pod?

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0:00.0

MSW Media.

0:06.4

Attorney General Pam Bondi has purportedly removed the District of Columbia Police Chief

0:11.8

and replaced her with the head of the DEA as an emergency police commissioner.

0:17.0

The D.C. Attorney General has filed suit against this takeover.

0:21.7

DC U.S. Attorney Janine Piro's office has admitted it's having a hard time securing grand jury indictments against D.C. protesters for interfering with immigration and customs enforcement.

0:32.8

A group of former national security and FBI officials has issued a warning about the ongoing purge inside the FBI.

0:40.9

And we speak with former Merit Systems Protection Board member Kathy Harris about her wrongful termination.

0:46.7

This is unjustified.

1:00.6

Everybody. Everybody welcome to episode 30 of Unjustified.

1:03.0

It's Sunday, August 17th, 2025.

1:04.4

I'm Alison Gill.

1:06.0

And I'm Andy McCabe.

1:08.9

All right, as you can see, we're rounding up another busy week as the Trump administration attempts to

1:10.8

federalize the District of Columbia, citing the Home Rule Act of 1973.

1:16.3

And we're going to get to that in just a bit.

1:18.2

But first, we're honored to be joined by a former member of the Merit Systems Protection

1:22.5

Board, the MSPB.

1:24.9

Now, Donald Trump fired her on February 10th.

1:27.4

She sued the Trump administration because members of the MSPB. Now, Donald Trump fired her on February 10th. She sued the Trump administration because

1:29.6

members of the MSPB can only be fired for inefficiency, neglect of duty, or malfeasance in office.

1:36.7

Eight days later, a federal judge ordered that she be reinstated.

1:41.3

But then, a three-judge panel on the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals found that Trump

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