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Welcome back to The Herd.

We will do tomorrow's headlines today at the end of the show.

I know you're going to love it, but you are absolutely

going to love our next guest. I think this is his debut on the herd, certainly with me.

Well, let's bring in Jonathan Gavoni, founder of Draft Express. The guy basically travels the

globe, finding all the best new prospects. He probably knew about Webbingyama like a decade ago.

Jonathan, how are you, man?

I'm doing great. So the last time I was on the herd, I came on to say, Ben Simmons is overrated.

Do not take him at one. And it was such a hot take, even for you guys, that you haven't brought me

back since. How about that? Hold up. That was before my time on the show,

but that's a hell of a call by you. I was a Ben Simmons truther. I do apologize. Let's start.

We were talking between the break, and I'm floored by this. Everybody thinks it's DeBanza

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