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College basketball right now feels more like college football, where I get a mix of a five-star

guy freshman, and then you're Ohio State, and you can go get Caleb Downs and now

you know he's an NFL player playing on Saturdays and Ryan Day the head coach of Ohio State

is now joining us live here on a Monday. All right this is a great scene again. This is an exciting time

and we were talking about the NIL and the way to do it is you can't just go pay

for stars. You're going to need a guard. You're going to need a number two tight end. It's a delicate

balance. Also, you don't want to just screw with your culture. The fascinating player with you is

Caleb Down. So I watched them last year. And I remember saying on the air, I think I'd make it my number one pick last year.

And then this year you had so many players develop, Sunny Stiles, Reese, that I felt like I see Caleb Downs and mock drafts going 12.

And I'm like, are you people insane?

I just look at him and I think that is a pro bowl player potentially. Tell me what I don't

see about Caleb Downs because I think he's been overshadowed on your defense because you have so

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