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Been on this show for years, T.J. Hushman Zada. Often the stuff he tells us before he goes on the air is as good and as juicy and informative as off the air stuff. So, you know, it's interesting. We were talking about Joe Burrow had the injury. Thank God he's fine. You know Burrow, you've trained Burrow. You've been around him. It is interesting. Years ago, Sean McVeigh said, I'm not playing any of my starters in preseason. I know McVeigh's belief has always been.

Get the pads off these guys.

Veteran players know it.

There's nothing here they're going to learn.

Where do you fall on star quarterback, star receiver, star edge rusher, star corner,

practice load, preseason load.

I'm not blaming the bingoes on practice load.

You have to play.

But it does feel like, TJ, there's been a little bit of a sea change since McVeigh came in the league and what are we doing here? It's actually smart. Guys work so hard in the offseason. They might take two, three weeks off maybe. And when they're doing that, they're probably getting up stretching each day mobility type guys are training year round so they're not

coming in a training camp having to get in shape these guys are in shape you just want to

maintain it and when you look at what happened with joe specifically he had already had a

sleeve on his right calf if you look at he has a sleeve on his right calf.

If you look at, he has a sleeve on his right calf.

And so he never wears a sleeve on his right calf.

So that showed me, they knew.

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