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The Herd with Colin Cowherd

THE HERD - Hour 2 - Herd Hierarchy, more on the Colts getting Sauce Gardner, Nick Wright

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

iHeartPodcasts and The Volume

Sports, News, Sports News, Football, Basketball

4.110.3K Ratings

🗓️ 4 November 2025

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

More on the Jets trading Sauce Gardner to the Colts

Colin gives his new Herd Hierarchy

Nick Wright from First Things First talks to Colin about his new Hierarchy, the issues with the Cowboys, the huge trade between the Jets and the Colts, and more

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0:00.0

This is an IHeart podcast.

0:04.2

Thanks for listening to The Heard podcast.

0:06.9

Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in noon to 3 Eastern, 9 a.m. to noon Pacific.

0:13.7

Find your local station for the herd at Fox Sports Radio.com or stream us live every day in the IHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR.

0:24.1

You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

0:30.2

Wow, all sorts of breaking news.

0:35.7

NFL trade deadline on a Tuesday. Welcome in. We're live in L.A. I sound like crud. Nobody cares. Sack up. Deliver. L.F.G. Let's go. All right. All right. Here we go. The Jets are giving Sauce Gardner to the Colts for two first-round picks.

0:58.9

So my takeaway is,

1:00.6

Sauce Gardner was a much better player under Robert Sala

1:03.5

because Robert Sala is a great defensive coordinator.

1:07.3

Sauce Gardner is not very good with Aaron Glenn because he doesn't know what he's doing.

1:34.7

And the Colts went to Cincinnati and they stole their defensive coordinator Lou honorumo and who was great in Cincinnati but the Bengals are dope so they let him go and the Colts go get him and they just don't have any good corners and there's there's a corner shortage in the NFL so of all the trades getting made you see the Eagles went out and they went and's a corner shortage in the NFL. So of all the trades getting made, you see, the Eagles went out and they went and got a corner of the moves being made.

1:37.7

So who do I like it for?

2:01.3

My take on first round picks, if you don't need a left tackle or a quarterback, you can live without a first round pick. In the history of the NFL, your best quarterbacks and left tackles, those guys come first round. You can get pass rushers, fourth, fifth round, receivers, running backs, interior o-linmen, linebackers, tight-ends. You can get them anywhere. George Kittled fifth round. But quarterbacks and left tackles, history tells you have first round. So the culture like, we love our O-line, we like Daniel Jones, we love our coach,

2:06.2

we got to go find a corner. It's a pretty decent corner draft, but none arguably as good as

2:11.2

Saus Gardner. Sauce Gardner reminds me a little at Jalen Ramsey. Long, aggressive, can be a little

2:16.7

moody. If the team's struggling, he's

2:19.2

kind of not into it as much. But I think a lot of it is he was great with Robert Sala, because

2:24.1

Robert Sala is excellent. He's a strong motivator. I think he's going back to an excellent defensive

2:29.6

coach. Two first is a little rich for my taste, but I've said this before.

2:35.6

If you are, the trading deadline is for teams like the Colts.

2:39.4

They're going to win their division and they think they can beat anybody.

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