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Rachel Nichols today in for Jay Mack.

She's part of the team.

We're around all the time.

And she's going to find out by the end of the show I'm a lot more more fun to work with the J.Mack. That goes without saying, but she's ready. I'm taking shots at him. Poor guys out with his kids in Vegas. I'm taking shots at him. At the end of this hour, we're going to have Rachel, who's got an NBA MVP vote, some thoughts. some thoughts we to go through the playoff series West and Eat. I'm telling you something out east. Nobody knows what to do with the Knicks. Fascinating team. We like the players. Mike Brown doesn't feel right. Josh Hart hints at something's not right in chemistry. So there's a really, and you know, this first team is a bunch of kids.

We've never seen them in the playoffs, yet we think they're dominant.

So it's a really interesting NBA playoff.

And we'll get to that.

I got to talk about something.

Dusty May coaches Michigan.

So I used to ask the question, would you rather be an NFL coach or a college coach?

And the thing that always turned me off about college coaching pre-NIL was this gross groveling to 16 and 17-year-old kids and writing 42 letters a month like you're some GI sending mail back to loved ones. It's like gross. These are 50, 60 year

old successful men and women coaching college athletics and they're groveling to 17 year olds.

They're putting in all this time and 75% of the time they don't pick you. Now the relationship,

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