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Our Hen House: Vegan & Animal Rights Movement | Stories from the Frontlines of Animal Liberation

The Hen Report: “Constantly Center the Animals” | Vegan Media, Animal Liberation in Pop Culture, and Effective Advocacy

Our Hen House: Vegan & Animal Rights Movement | Stories from the Frontlines of Animal Liberation

Jasmin Singer and Mariann Sullivan

Society & Culture, Documentary, News, News Commentary, Self-improvement, Education

4.9579 Ratings

🗓️ 4 December 2025

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

In this week’s episode of The Hen Report, Jasmin and Mariann explore how animal rights themes are increasingly appearing in mainstream media – from the explicit animal liberation narrative in Wicked to the vegan consciousness in Apple TV’s Pluribus. They celebrate recent policy victories while examining why veganism often faces social resistance, emphasizing that effective advocacy keeps animals, not vegan identity,…

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0:00.0

Welcome to The Hen Report. This is Jasmine Singer.

0:08.7

This is Marianne Sullivan. And we're so excited that you're here today. This is our hen house

0:14.5

sort of umbrella. Every time we do a show now, I'm just going to use another bad metaphor,

0:20.5

whether it's the universe or umbrellas or whatever.

0:23.1

But in any case, we're glad you're here because rising anxieties comes out on Tuesdays.

0:27.3

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0:32.8

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0:34.2

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0:40.2

you can. So we finally saw Wicked. And yeah, on people left on Thanksgiving. And I loved seeing it

0:50.6

on Thanksgiving. Not only was the theater on the empty side, but, you know,

0:56.3

Thanksgiving is always hard when you're vegan and you know that so many people are just

1:01.4

centering an entire event around a dead animal. But I feel like I've gotten past that. I mean,

1:09.2

obviously, if I, I mean, for most people, they have to go somewhere where there's a dead bird and then I wouldn't be past it. But I just, you know, I enjoy Thanksgiving. I don't think about the fact that this is a particular celebration of killing animals. I mean, they all go out there and kill animals every day and

1:29.4

whether it's a celebration or not. So I think you need to own Thanksgiving. But one way to own it is

1:34.3

to go see a great movie. About animal liberation. You know, it's so funny. So I know we've been

1:39.5

talking about Wicked far, far before the movie was even a glimmer in Ariana Grande's eyes because we saw it on

1:47.1

Broadway so many, I saw it so many times on Broadway. I only saw it once. I'm not as nearly as much of a

1:53.0

wicked efficiency. Well, I'm not even sure I'm like the biggest fan in the world. I just, for some

1:58.4

reason, tickets always landed on my lap to see the play. But it's,

2:02.3

it's like a manifesto about animal rights, as we've discussed. And the funny thing. I think the movie was

2:06.9

even more than the play. And I think the second movie was even more than the first.

2:13.5

Yeah, 100%. But so the funny thing is I get a text from someone the other day and she's like, do you think, this person's vegan. And she hasn't seen it. And she goes, so is wicked like animal rightsy? And I was like, oh, yeah, like totally. And she was like, oh, because a friend of mine saw it and said it wasn't. Yeah, that's what I'm hearing.

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