Hi, I'm Annamri Cox and welcome to with friends like these, a podcast about difficult conversations

and relationships and politics and politics and relationships and the way those things influence

each other.

It's a particularly special episode today.

First of all, there's some stunt casting involved, a special crossover episode, like,

you know, when Buffy would be on Angel or Angel would be on Buffy.

I am doing this show today with my friend John Moe, who is the host of the hilarious

World of Depression podcast, which explores the world of depression through the lens of

comedy.

It's actually really great.

And if you have an interest in either comedy or mental health issues, you should check

it out.

And the other thing that's particularly special about this episode of with friends like

these is that, well, we couldn't decide if we had two hosts or two guests or maybe we

had two hosts and two guests, but basically we interview each other and we talk about

depression.

We actually talk about suicide too.

And if that's something that upsets you particularly, you might want to skip this

episode.

If you feel like you can hang in there, please do.

It's not just a special episode in some ways.

It's a pretty important episode.

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