I'm Sean Fennacy.

And this is the Big Picture A Conversation Show about sex, love, yearning, desire, and movies. Today on the show, we are joined by our pal, Sam Sanders. It's so good to be here. Thank you for being here. Hosted the Sam Sanders Show. We are here talking about two very sexy, horny, unusual movies. The first one, of course, is Wethering Heights, the much-anticipated

Emerald Fennell adaptation of the Bronte novel. The second is Pillion, which is written and directed

by Harry Leighton. Harry Leighton is a guest on the show today. We talked about how his movie,

which is a DOMCOM, a BDSM rom-com exhibits power, love, vulnerability, difficulty,

and relationships, and the size of

Alexander Scarsguard. We will get into that after our conversation, and we'll start talking about

Wuthering Heights right after this.

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Let's talk about weathering heights, okay? Let's talk about it. So just as a little... We'll give background on the movie, but I want to give a little background on Emerald Fennel between Amanda and I. So we have covered her two previous films on the show,

Promising Young Woman, which is a movie that I liked some aspects on,

but was very mixed to negative, especially on the ending.

I think you were more or less the same, maybe even more negative on it than I was.

I think so. I think that's going to be a theme.

Salpern, not a big fan of. You were not.

Playing in my face. Playing in my face.

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