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Well, this is one of the more unusual starts to a programme for Out of Doors.

I'm Ewan McElroydon.

And over the other side of this bridge, this echoey bridge is Mark Stephen.

And it's suddenly got echoey because this is the bridge at Hart Hill that goes over the motor where you come outside

and suddenly you're enclosed in glass.

It's a strange experience.

It does sound kind of weird, doesn't it?

I take it you came from the Glasgow side.

Yep. Right, just explain the situation here.

A few weeks ago was having dinner with some friends of mine, and somebody said, the dreaded line,

you'll know the answer to this, which is always a bad start.

The question was, where is the heart of Scotland?

Yeah, that's not an easy one.

No, I would see you would know the heart of Midlothian,

just to explain we've come out of the tunnel now,

we're just at the side of the motorway completely different kind of feeling and sounds here well I thought this is a good place to start

because heart health services is the only place I know of in Scotland that has the brass

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