Welcome to Emergence Magazine's podcast.

I'm Emanuel Vaughn Lee, host of this show, an executive editor of Emergence Magazine,

located on the unseated ancestral lands of the Coast Miwok people in present-day, Marine County.

Each week, we feature interviews, stories, poetry, and author-narrated essays, exploring the threads connecting ecology, culture, and spirituality.

In companion to the release of our latest volume on Seasons, we're sharing a series of conversations with its contributors that delve deeper into the themes of requiem,

invitation, and celebration that we explore in the print edition.

In this first conversation of the series, acclaimed author Terry Tempice Williams and writer

in Zen Roshi, Susan Murphy, join me to speak about their essays and what a requiem for the seasons

can mean.

And while they explore this from vastly different angles, their pieces both ultimately reveal

what lies at the heart of requiem, an acceptance of impermanence, a love for the burning

world, and the opportunity for a new way of being in relationship with the seasons to emerge.

We talk about the importance of offering a depth and devotion of attention to the changes we are seeing

transform ancient cycles and rhythms, the paradox of celebration that remains ever present within times of requiem,

and how he might embody something akin to flock consciousness

as he moved deeper into this season of ecological uncertainty. Terry, Susan, welcome to the show.

It's wonderful to be able to speak together today.

Thank you.

Good to be here.

So for our new seasons theme edition, we invited you both to write on the theme of Requiem,

which is one of the three main themes explored, and was really a space to acknowledge and pay tribute to what is vanishing or has been lost as the familiar cycles of the seasons begin to unravel

as we put earth under greater and greater duress. And Susan, you wrote a brilliant piece about

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