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The Way Out Is In

The Heart of Meditation – Part One (Episode #61)

The Way Out Is In

Plum Village

Health & Fitness, Education, Buddhism, Mental Health, Religion & Spirituality, Self-improvement

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🗓️ 28 December 2023

⏱️ 115 minutes

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Summary

Welcome to episode 61 of The Way Out Is In: The Zen Art of Living, a podcast series mirroring Zen Master Thich Nhat Hanh’s deep teachings of Buddhist philosophy: a simple yet profound methodology for dealing with our suffering, and for creating more happiness and joy in our lives. In this episode, Zen Buddhist monk Brother Phap Huu and leadership coach/journalist Jo Confino are again joined by frequent guest Sister True Dedication (Sister Hien Nghiem). Together, they discuss the sixteen exercises of mindful breathing which are at the heart of the teachings offered by Thich Nhat Hanh and the Plum Village community.This episode, the first of a two-part special, explains and breaks down the practice of breathing exercises one to eight. It includes the exercises’ traditional texts, revised versions (plus the reasons for their revision), and variations and adaptations, with extensive explanations given by the two monastics about how to apply each one to our daily lives.  In addition, stories are shared about Thich Nhat Hanh practicing meditation, as well as the concrete steps taken and challenges faced over time by both Brother Phap Huu and Sister True Dedication.  And why is sitting meditation the hardest practice? Is it essential to meditate in order to be a good practitioner of mindfulness? How can one ease oneself into attention? What difference does paying attention to our breathing actually make? These and many other questions are answered in this installment of the podcast.Enjoy. Co-produced by the Plum Village App:https://plumvillage.app/ And Global Optimism:https://globaloptimism.com/  With support from the Thich Nhat Hanh Foundation:https://thichnhathanhfoundation.org/ List of resources  Sister True Dedication https://plumvillage.org/people/dharma-teachers/sister-hien-nghiem/  Songs: ‘The 16 Exercises of Mindful Breathing’https://plumvillage.org/library/songs/the-16-exercises-of-mindful-breathingDharma Talks: ‘The Noble Eightfold Path’ https://plumvillage.org/library/dharma-talks/the-noble-eightfold-path The Five Contemplations Before Eatinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjyQVYqr6-U  Interbeinghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interbeing  Breathe, You Are Alive!https://plumvillage.org/books/breathe-you-are-alive  Mahayanahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahayana Jo-ann Rosenhttps://www.parallax.org/authors/jo-ann-rosen/  Sister Jinahttps://plumvillage.org/people/dharma-teachers/sr-dieu-nghiem  Dharma Talk: ‘Sutra on the Full Awareness of Breathing’https://www.parallax.org/mindfulnessbell/article/dharma-talk-sutra-on-the-full-awareness-of-breathing-2/ Quotes “From a more Western background, there’s a goal we need to meet and then we’re done. And I think that has also been applied to meditation, mindfulness, or spirituality: we think that there is one aim and if we practice for this long, then we will feel successful and accomplished, and then we’re finished. But Thay didn’t stop practicing, even after being named a Zen Master. The Buddha himself never stopped practicing, even after his enlightenment. So we have to change our view of meditation, to see and understand it as a path of practice. And each step, each breath is a journey, is a continuation. And we will grow in our own understanding of the breath.” “Our practice is also learning to befriend the breath, and seeing that the breath is our spiritual foundation, our spiritual home. And it’s mobile, because wherever we go, that breath is with us.”  “Meditation in the sitting position offers a combination of stillness, alertness, and deep calm, and then deep looking can arise from that stopping and that stillness. And so, each of us may have to be quite creative to find the moment when we can have real stillness.” “Meditation is not a fixed point in time or a fixed place; it’s a way to see the world.” “In our

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0:00.0

Dear listeners, welcome to this latest episode of the podcast series The Way Out is In. I am Joe Konfino working at the intersection of personal transformation and systems evolution.

0:27.0

And I am Brother Fapu, a Zen Buddhist monk, student of Zen Master Tickehan in the Plum Village tradition.

0:33.3

And today brother, look who's in the hut.

0:36.6

It's our favorite, oh I'm not allowed to discriminate,

0:39.7

it's our favorite guest, Sister True Dedication.

0:44.4

And we, brother, we try and bring Sister True Dedication often,

0:48.1

and it's hard to capture her, isn't it?

0:51.2

It's hard to get her to come and join us. So, sister, it's a joy to have you here today.

0:56.4

Thank you so much. She's lovely to be here with you both.

0:59.1

Smiling already, early in the morning.

1:01.6

Sister's here.

1:04.0

And today we are going to be talking about meditation.

1:09.0

And brother, people will think, well, we are on episode 61 or 62 how come we are

1:16.0

only talking about meditation but I think we maybe go into that but today we are

1:21.2

going to talk about the way out of his skin. Hello dear listeners, I'm Joe Confino. I'm Brother Fabu.

1:46.7

And I'm Sister True Dedication.

1:48.9

And Brother Fabu, how come it's taken us so long to talk about meditation?

1:55.0

If you actually listen to all of the episodes, they are all meditations,

2:00.0

but I think we all are caught in an idea of what meditation is in a form such as we should be sitting very still with her back upright on a cushion levitating and having no thoughts in our minds.

2:18.0

And therefore we have received questions as well as feedback and comments asking us to

2:25.7

to guide and to talk about meditation but if we actually reflect on all the topics that we have addressed and shared through the two of us,

2:41.5

with also many of the guests that we've had.

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