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Hello and welcome back to the ESM podcast. I'm glad that you're here and I have what I think to be a really

cool topic to share with you. I have this feeling that it's

going to show up a lot for the rest of the year because really I just keep seeing application

everywhere and this ideology will help you face challenges. Challenges in fact are everywhere.

Difficulties, things that take work or discipline or time. And while most of us are just

kind of programmed to try to settle things as quickly as possible or find the easy way out,

for the most part, those choices are not healthy. And once I really settled into this idea that

just because something continues to be difficult doesn't mean that's a bad thing. And once I really settled into this idea that just because something continues to be

difficult doesn't mean that's a bad thing. And there may be more value in wrestling through things

than even the resolution on the other side. Well, like I say, I've gotten really excited about the

prospects of that. So here's a little background on how all of this came together for me. I have this

really good friend, an inner circle buddy named Brent Moody. And we talk about everything, all of the

hard stuff, anything I'm struggling with, anything that I can't quite figure out, I take it to Brent.

And while he is super intelligent, way smarter than I will

ever be, he's always been really good at understanding that it's not necessarily his job to give

me an answer. He never makes this attempt to dumb it down or make it simple, to resolve the

tension to check a box and move on. And so one day, while we were

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