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Emmy and multiple word-winning anchor and investigative reporter. And he joins us now to talk about home title lock.

Good morning, John. Good morning, Stephanie. Oh, you're way too kind.

You know, this is a really serious subject. Talk to us exactly what is title fraud or house stealing

is what it really is. Originally, the FBI, when they first identified with Stephanie about 25 years ago,

they called it house stealing the

latest one i've heard is title pirates but basically it's all the same thing what happens is the

bad guy can transfer the title of property into your name or into another false person's name and then

extract the value of that piece of property.

So they don't want to steal the house.

They don't want the actual physical structure.

What they want is the value.

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