Hey everybody, it's you know from the Vergecast,

big interview show this week.

Julia, Alexander and I sat down with Tony Gensalvez.

He's the executive AT&T responsible for HBO Max,

the company's new streaming service.

Tony's actual title is CEO of Audermedia,

which is the division of AT&T that's doing HBO.

It's a complicated order chart we made Tony explain it to us.

We talked to Tony the day after HBO Max actually launched,

so we heard about how the launch went, how it's going.

We got deep into the strategy for HBO Max,

how it's rolling out, the dispute with Roku and Amazon,

HBO Max isn't on those platforms yet,

and broadly the future of the streaming wars.

It turns out Tony doesn't like the term streaming wars at all.

You'll hear about it.

Here's one thing I want to call out.

I asked Tony point blank whether AT&T would excuse HBO Max

from its data caps, or give it priority access

to its network over Netflix and other services.

You'll hear it, Tony said they've had the conversations about it,

but he didn't know the answer.

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